Thursday, December 21, 2017

Answering Questions on the New World Translation and John 1:1

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Answering Questions on the New World Translation and John 1:1
Unless other wise stated, all Scriptures will be from the American Standard Version 1901
 
  "When the Grammarian has finished, the theologian steps in, and sometimes before the grammarian is through." A.T. Robertson, A Grammar of the Greek New Testament in the Light of Historical Research, p. 389
 
From an Email: Now one of the most troubling things to me in Watchtower theology is the rendering of John 1:1. You say “Christ the Word is ‘a god’ according to John 1:1 in the New World Translation.” Your translators say the small “g” from the word god is required because the Greek word used for God (theos) is not preceded by a definite article “the”(ho). (Should you believe in the Trinity? P. 26)
What the Greek Really Says
You are right in saying that in John 1:1 the Greek word for God is not preceded by a definite article. However, good Greek scholarship agrees that this dose not mean it should be translated “god” with a small “g.” The definite article is omitted because of a somewhat technical rule of Greek grammar.
Now don’t get me wrong, I don’t know all that much about Greek grammar, but I do understand enough to know what these Greek scholars are talking about, and have enough faith in God that he would inspire these men to translate the Greek manuscripts correctly. Now what Greek scholars say is that a definite predicate nominative (theos) that precedes a verb dose (sic) not have to have the definite article(ho). The order of Greek words in the last clause of John 1:1 is “God was the Word” (theos en ho logos). The subject of the sentence is “the Word,” the verb is “was,” and the predicate nominative is “God.” Usually the predicate nominative follows the verb, but in this case it precedes it; and since it precedes the verb no article is necessary. I know that it is very hard to understand, and I tried to give you the best understanding possible.
When a Greek writer wanted to stress the quality of the person or thing that was in the predicate nominative case, he would put it before the verb rather than after it. This is what John did to stress the fact that the Word (Christ) possesses the qualities of Godhood. This fundamental principle of Greek grammar supports the deity of Christ and gives no support whatsoever to the translation “The Word was a god.” The intent of John could be rendered in English, “The Word was fully God.”
 
Reply: I pressed Jason for more information of this rule, he replied:
"The rule I was talking about is actually explained in the Letter its self. I know its kind of hard to catch, but the rule is that the definite predicate nominative (Theos,God) that precedes the verb (En, was) dose not have to have the definite article (Ho, the). You see in the actual Greek the verse is rendered "God was the word" (Theos en ho logos) Therefore no definite article is needed. Also an interesting thought, is that "God" which is a definite predicate nominative, can't be preceded by an indefinite article "a." You can look that up in any college English text book. Also for the "rule" we were talking about in Greek grammar; look up reference to that in Thayer's Greek-English lexicon. I specifically give you Thayer as a reference, because he himself did not believe Jesus was God, and did not believe the bible was completely accurate, yet translates just what it says in the Greek, not changing it to mold to his believe. That might help you a little I hope =). But im Glad you have decided to write back a rebudle to my letter. Rarely do I see witnesses scrutinize what I send them with an actual letter back to me. Im very interested to see what you can get out of God's word to argue what iv said. Very good brother, God bless you."
I initially replied:
"I think you are being too harsh on Thayer. Despite the ad hominem attack on Thayer, that what is called 'Thayer's Lexicon', is mostly the work of Lutherans Wilke and Grimm in Greek and Latin, which were translated into English by Joseph Henry Thayer, who was a Congregationalist and NOT an Unitarian [see: George Huntston Williams, The Harvard Divinity School, Boston, The Beacon Press, 1954, p. 147 and The Encyclopedia Americana, 1956, Vol. 26, p. 490.]
Are you referring to Colwell's rule of grammar ["God" which is a definite predicate nominative, can't be preceded by an indefinite article "a?"]
I just finished reading the reference in Thayer's Greek Lexicon, and it mentions nothing of this rule of grammar, that I can see. Perhaps you can be more specific, or give me a reference I can work with. Sorry to be troublesome, but I am presently working on your response, and this information will help me out."
Jason replied:
>>You know what, maybe I was mistaken about the reference to the rule, I was just going off of memory. Let me go through my notes and get back to you on that. Sorry about that. Also, just to let you know, you can be as troublesome as you'd like. You need to be very assertive and scrutinize everything when studying the bible. So any mistakes you come across, let me know.
...Here, I don't have this book myself, but im sure it would be in here, try looking at "Dana and Mantey, A Manual Grammar of the Greek New Testament" because there is a section in there that talks about Theos with and with out the article on page 139. I hope that helps.
I appreciate that candor. Since Thayer was not forthcoming, I decided to take a look at Dana and Mantey's grammar on page 139:
"vi. The use of the articular and anarthrous constructions of QEOS is highly instructive. A study of the uses of the term as given in Moulton and Geden's Concordance convinces one that without the article QEOS signifies divine essence, while with the article divine personality is chiefly in view. There is keen discernment in Webster's statement. published as far back as 1864:
'QEOS occurs without the article (1) where the Deity is contrasted with what is human, or with the universe as distinct from its Creator, or with the nature and acts of evil spirits, (2) when the essential attributes of Deity are spoken of, (3) when operations proceeding from God are appropriated to one of the three Divine Persons, (4) when the Deity is spoken of as heathens would speak, or a Jew who denied the existence of the Son and of the Holy Spirit. But the article seems to be used (1) when the Deity is spoken of in the Christian point of view, (2) when the First Person of the blessed Trinity is specially designated, unless its insertion is unnecessary by the addition of PATHR or some distinctive epithet (op. cit., p. 29).'
This analysis is doubtless more exact and detailed than the facts will support, but it certainly shows admirable discrimination. Surely when Robertson says that QEOS as to the article, "is treated like a proper name and may have it or not have it" (R. 761), he does not mean to intimate that the presence or absence of the article with QEOS has no special significance. We construe him to mean that there is no definite rule governing the use of the article with QEOS so that sometimes the writer's viewpoint is difficult to detect, which is entirely true. But in the great majority of instances the reason for the distinction is clear. The use of QEOS in Jn. 1:1 is a good example. PROS TON QEON points to Christ's fellowship with the person of the Father; QEOS HN O LOGOS emphasizes Christ's participation in the essence of the divine nature. The former clearly applies to personality, while the latter applies to character. This distinction is in line with the general force of the article. It may be seen even in the papyri, as O FWS EK FWTOS, QEOS ALHQINOS, 0 Light of light, true God, where the emphasis is clearly on God's character rather than His personality (Milligan: op. cit., p. 134).
vii. The articular construction emphasizes identity; the anarthrous construction emphasizes character. If the student will turn to Rom. 8:1ff. and apply this principle, be will find how illuminating it becomes in actual interpretation. It is certain that one engaged in exegesis cannot afford to disregard the article. The New Testament justifies the observation of Buttmann that "the use of the article has everywhere its positive reason" (Bt. 88)."
Dana and Mantey go on to confirm on page 141 that "There are no 'rules' for the use of the definite article in Greek..."
We have an interesting statement though on pages 148 and 149:.
"The article sometimes distinguishes the subject from the predicate in a copulative sentence. In Xenophon's Anabasis, 1:4:6, EMPORION D HN TO CWRION, and the place was a market, we have a parallel case to that we have in John 1:1, KAI QEOS HN O LOGOS, and the word was deity.  The article points out the subject in these examples.  Neither was the place the only market, nor was the word all of God, as it would mean if the article was also used with QEOS.  As it stands, the other persons of the Trinity may be implied in QEOS." pp. 148, 149
Again, we have an excellent example of how we can translate John 1:1c with Xenophon's Anabasis, "the place was a market, i.e., the Word was a god. But notice how the language becomes confused:
"Neither was the place the only market, nor was the word all of God." This is not an even parallel at all. A truthful and equivalent statement SHOULD be, "Neither was the place the only market, nor was the word the only God." The reasons for this strange turn of language is made quite clear in the following sentence, where he wants to implicate "the other persons of the Trinity."
When Dana & Mantey speak of the "essence of divine nature" they are mentioning something of import to their target audience, but the idea and words are foreign to the Johannine prologue.
Additionally, you stated that your "Greek Scholars" make assumptions that the predicate nominative in John 1:1c is definite.
This is referring to Colwell's rule of grammar:
"A definite predicate nominative has the article when it follows the verb; it does not have the article when it precedes the verb. . . . The opening  verse of John’s Gospel contains one of the many passages where this rule suggests the translation of a predicate as a definite noun. The absence of the article [before theos] does not make the predicate indefinite or qualitative when it precedes the verb; it is indefinite in this position only when the context demands it. The context makes no such demand in the Gospel of John, for this statement cannot be regarded as strange in the prologue of the gospel which reaches its climax in the confession of Thomas [John 20:28, "My Lord and my God"]. (E. C. Colwell, "A Definite Rule for the Use of the Article in the Greek New Testament," Journal of Biblical Literature, LII (1933), 12-21. Cf. also B. M. Metzger, "On the Translation of John 1:1," Expository Times, LXIII (1951-52), 125 f., and C. F. D. Moule, The Language of the New Testament, Inaugural Lecture, delivered at Cambridge University on May 23, 1952, pp. 12-14.)"
There are problems with Colwell's Rule, and NO Greek scholar today worth his salt would defend it. The following is from an online conversation between Robert Hommel and Professor Jason Beduhn:
"The problem arises when Colwell himself - and many who followed him - affirmed the consequent of his Rule - that is, "Anarthrous pre-copulative PNs are usually definite." His perfectly valid descriptive Rule was inverted to become a logically invalid and inductively falsifiable prescription for translation. Colwell did not define the converse of his Rule in his article, but he begins to assume it, and finally overtly applies it to John 1:1c.
When most scholars refer to Colwell's rule, they rightly quote the Rule as stated - and it is a valid rule (and useful in the field of textual criticism). However, when they commit the logical fallacy of affirming the consequent, and then apply the result to John 1:1, they are, indeed, creating an "imaginary rule.""
http://www.republika.pl/arekwis/doktryna/trojca/hommelvsbeduhn.html
Dr.J.Beduhn and R.Hommel: A Discussion upon the translation of John 1:1c.
(occurring Jan/Feb, 2002 on Christian Apologetics Research Ministry JW discussion board)

Donald E. Hartley Th.M, Ph.D also has an interesting article on this at https://bible.org/article/revisiting-colwell-construction-light-masscount-nouns entitled
Revisiting the Colwell Construction in Light of Mass/Count Nouns:
Third, Colwell appears to be responsible, because of his application to John 1:1, for laying the groundwork of a logical blunder.  Colwell’s rule “Definite predicate nominatives that precede the verb usually lack the article” came to be seen as “Anarthrous predicate nominatives that precede the verb are usually definite.” We have affirmed, based on our study, that Colwell’s original rule is valid but the converse of his rule is inductively falsifiable. In fact our study confirms that within the NT as a whole, this semantic category (definiteness) is certainly not the expected nuance of the construction, and not the predominant sense when it comes to singular count nouns as well. Thus this converse is neither true of the whole nor of its parts. So although definiteness is a possible semantic category, it is certainly not the probable one regarding anarthrous constructions. In addition, although the converse of Colwell’s rule is not formally illogical, it is inductively falsifiable.
Fourth, Colwell seems to have misunderstood what a definite semantic to the noun entailed linguistically.  His improper method of prescription, based on his analysis, led him to commit a category mistake by foisting a se-mantic upon a certain group of nouns (pre-copulative PNs) that he failed to appreciate on their own terms. Because of this, and apparently without considering the ramifications of what the semantic suggested, he applied it to John 1:1c and argued against the indefinite or qualitative sense. But this was an improper use of his own rule, for his rule was only to be applied post hoc to nouns clearly understood to be definite from context. But here is where the prob-lem of his method shows up starkly. Because John 20:28 has the articular qeov", he assumes that its pre-copulative anarthrous occurrence bears the same semantic. But this is simply an example of pigeonholing a noun into a semantic box based completely on the semantics born out in a separate construction. Count nouns can bear different nuances without the article than it can with the article—Colwell has not properly understood this principle.  In short he begged the question by making his rule prescriptive rather than descriptive of the majority of cases involving definite nouns preceding the copulative verb.
Murray Harris relates according to this rule:
"b. Evaluation of the Rules
(1) There can be no doubt that the formulation of these rules that cover NT usage represented a significant advance on the three general observations concerning the use of the article with predicate nouns that are found in the older NT grammars (e.g., Robertson, Grammar 767-68), viz., (a) that predicate nouns tend to be anarthrous; (b) that predicate nouns that are generic are anarthrous; 52 and (c) that predicate nouns in convertible propositions are articular.
With this said, one should not overlook the definite limitations of the rules.
(2) Colwell himself notes ("Rule" 16-17, 17 n. 12) that the rules do not apply to constructions where there is an ellipsis of the copula or to qualitative nouns. And it is clear from the last two rules that proper names (2c) and predicate nominatives in relative clauses (2d) are themselves exceptions to the principal exceptions (viz., 2a and 2b). Examples that fitted any of these four categories were not included in Colwell's statistical analysis.
(3) It must remain uncertain whether the inference Colwell drew from his study may stand, viz., that a predicate noun which precedes the copula "is indefinite in this position only when the context demands it" ("Rule" 21). In fact the reverse would seem to be the case, as Colwell himself first stated it: "A predicate nominative which precedes the verb cannot be translated as an indefinite or a 'qualitative' noun solely because of the absence of the article; if the context suggests that the predicate is definite, it should be translated as a definite noun in spite of the absence of the article" ("Rule" 20). The difficulty is simply this. How can one determine the definiteness of a noun which is anarthrous? For example, is PROFHTHS definite or indefinite in Mark 11:32 and John 4:19? The only indisputable datum about an anarthrous noun is that it lacks the article. Particularly in the application of rule 2b-often referred to as "Colwell's rule"-a considerable element of subjectivity comes into play and there is the constant danger of arguing in a circle by assuming from the context that a particular anarthrous predicate noun is definite and then finding in its placement before the copula the confirmation of its definiteness. Whether in the subject or predicate, an articular noun is definite with regard to what is signified. An anarthrous noun in the subject or predicate, on the other hand, may be either indefinite or definite, but the presumption ought to be that it is either (1) indefinite (since Greek has, in the article, a means of making definiteness unambiguous), until it has been shown to be definite from the context (both immediate and general), or (2) qualitative, whatever be its state of definiteness. This leads me to affirm that one may not infer (as is often done) from rule 2b that anarthrous predicate nouns which precede the verb are usually definite. Indeed, such nouns will usually be qualitative
in emphasis."
Jesus as God, Murray Harris, pp. 311, 312
According to Rodney J. Decker:
"Definiteness is assumed, not proven by the rule. It is not valid to use the rule to establish definiteness....The converse of the rule may not be assumed. That is, it is not true that because a predicate noun precedes a copulative verb, it is therefore definite." The entire article can be downloaded by clicking here. Professor Furuli adds:
"Contrary to what Bowman says, Colwell himself laid the foundation for the misuse of his rule by applying it to John 1:1 (See page 21 of Colwell's JBL article.) Bruce M. Metzger, "The Jehovah's Witnesses and Jesus Christ," Theology Today 10.1 (April 1953), pp. 65-85, also must share some of the responsibility for the general abuse of the rule. He stated that the translators of the NWT, by translating "the Word was a god," overlooked entirely "an established rule of Greek grammar which necessitates the rendering ... and the Word was God." Metzger is a respected scholar who has done much good work with the Greek text of the NT. His words may have been written because of his theological differences with Jehovah's Witnesses. I think he would have expressed himself more cautiously today. However, such inaccurate statements are still used as authoritative, for instance, by Robert Countess, The Jehovah's Witnesses' New Testament (Phillipsburg, NJ: Presbyterian and Reformed, 1982), p. 53."
P. 215 n.31 The Role Of Theology and Bias in Bible Translation
What it comes down to is that Colwell's Rule says if a definite predicate noun precedes the copulative, then it tends to be anarthrous. It is wrong to deduce from this, "if an anarthrous predicate noun precedes the copulative, then it tends to be definite." This is the erroneous conclusion of Colwell himself, and host of others have followed suit. It is like saying that if a man is a citizen of North Carolina, then he is a citizen of the United States, which is true, but false if we use this to prove the converse, that if a man is a citizen of the United States, then he is also a citizen of North Carolina.
Walter Martin even goes so far as to misquote Colwell's Rule:
"Colwell's rule clearly states that a definite predicate nominative (Theos-God) never takes an article when it precedes the verb." Kingdom of the Cults, 1977, 75
What Colwell said was that it usually lacks the article, and then submits 15 instances that are exceptions:
Lu 4:41; John 1:21; 6:51; 15:1; 2 Pet 1:17; Rom 4:13; 1 Cor 9:1, 2; 11:3, 25; 2 Cor 1:12; 3:2, 17; Rev 19:8; 20:14 (see Colwell, “A Definite Rule,” 18). Further recommended reading is Paul Stephen Dixon's article: "The Significance of the Anarthrous Predicate Nominative in John" from the Faculty of the Dept. of New Testament Literature and Exegesis-Dallas Theological Seminary, May 1975;
Philip B. Harner's Qualitative Anarthrous Predicate Nouns: Mark 15:39 and John 1:1, JBL 92 (1973), pp. 75-87;  and Professor Rolf Furuli's The Role of Theology and Bias in Bible Translation.

According to Harner's study, John has 53 examples of anarthrous predicate nominatives occurring before the verb, 26 of them being indefinite, with possibly 11 more being indefinite.
When we use count nouns (nouns that can be counted, as opposed to ones that cannot, like "flesh" or "love"), we also arrive at an interesting conclusion.
The following chart shows pre-verbal singular count nouns, as in, and excluding John 1:1c, as rendered in the NIV:
We must remember that the Greek does NOT have an indefinite article ("a"), but they are deemed necessary when translating into English.
The RED indicates Qualitativeness according to Dixon's Thesis, "The Significance of the Anarthrous Predicate Nominative In John."
The BLUE indicates "Probably Qualitative, but Possibly Definite" according to Dixon.
Scripture NIV Rendering with the definite article NIV Rendering with indefinite article No article rendered
John 1:49 You are the King of Israel Beck's Bible, WEB
John 3:29 The bride belongs to the bridegroom
John 4:19 Sir...I can see that you are a prophet
John 5:10 It is the Sabbath
John 5:27 he is the Son of Man Young's, Rotherham, Montgomery
John 6:70 one of you is a devil
John 8:33 We are Abraham's descendants
John 8:34 everyone who sins is a slave to sin
John 8:37 you are Abraham's descendants
John 8:42 If God were your Father
John 8:44 He was a murderer
John 8:44 for he is a liar
John 8:48 you are a Samaritan
John 8:54 you claim as your God
John 9:17 He is a prophet
John 9:24 this man is a sinner
John 9:25 he is a sinner
John 9:28 you are this fellow's disciple
John 10:1 the man who...is a thief
John 10:2 The man who enters by the gate is the shepherd of his sheep Young's, Rotherham, 20h Century NT
John 10:13 he is a hired hand
John 10:36 I am God's Son
John 12:6 he was a thief
John 18:35 Am I a Jew?
John 18:37 You are a king then?
John 18:37 I am a king
John 19:21 claimed to be king of the Jews
John 3:29 is rendered indefinitely as "The [one] having the bride a bridegroom is." The Nestle Greek Text with a Literal English Translation by the Reverend Alfred Marshall D. Litt.
John 5:10 is rendered with the indefinite article in the Good News Bible, Beck's Bible, God's Word, Emphatic Diaglott, Kleist & Lilly NT, Weymouth's NT, and Young's Literal Translation.
John 5:27 is rendered with the indefinite article in the World English Bible, Kleist & Lilly NT, Smith & Goodspeed's An American Translation, Emphatic Diaglott, Revised Version-Improved and Corrected.
John 10:2  is rendered with the indefinite article in the Weymouth NT (ftn.), Barclay's NT, Revised Version-Improved and Corrected, and the Emphatic Diaglott.

As we can see, most of the above examples can make a claim for indefiniteness. They are even more indefinite than the ones labelled qualitative.

Qualitativeness does not rule out indefiniteness, just like indefiniteness does not rule out qualitativeness. We simply cannot get away from the fact that the majority of Bible translations and versions have translated the above in the indefinite, not in the qualitative. John 4:19 was not translated "prophet-like," but "a prophet." John 6:70 was not translated "devil-like" or "devilish," but "a devil" despite the fact that the New International Version is a dynamic equivalent version.
Not only is it that "the predicate nominative describes the class to which the subject belongs" (See Greek Grammar Beyond the Basics, Daniel Wallace, p. 41), but anarthrousness often proves that you are not the only one in that class.

At Mark 1:3, Wuest says of "The Voice" [FWNH], "no definite article in the Greek text. The Baptist was not the only mouthpiece of God sent to Israel." (P. 13, Word Studies in the Greek New Testament, Kenneth Wuest)
On Anabasis, 1:4:6, EMPORION D HN TO CWRION, and the place was a market, Dana & Mantey's Manual Grammar of the Greek New Testament state that the place was not the only market. How does this usage compare with the above list?
At John 1:49, though Jesus was uniquely THE King of Israel, he was not the only one to bear that title. He can although, bear the traits of a king.
The bridegroom at John 3:29 is modified by the present active verb ECWN (echon).
At John 4:19, Jesus was not the only prophet.
The Sabbath at John 5:10 was not the only such sabbath.
At John 5:27, though Jesus was uniquely THE Son of Man, he was not the only one who can claim that title.
Judas, at John 6:70 was not THE devil, or the only slanderer in the Bible, and he certainly shared the qualities/traits of Satan without actually being the devil.
John 8:33 is modified by the possessive construction.
In John 8:34, the indicated slave was not the only such slave....and so on.
At John 1:1c, Jesus was not the only God mentioned in the Bible, and he was not THE God. He did share the qualities/traits of God.
"Careful translators recognize that the articular construction of the noun points to an identity, a personality, whereas an anarthrous construction points to a quality about someone." Appendix 1950 edition NWT
Note the appendix in the NWT 1984 Ed., where they said that the translations "a god" do so
"because the Greek word (the·os') is a singular predicate noun occurring before the verb and is not preceded by the definite article. This is an anarthrous the·os'. The God with whom the Word, or Logos, was originally is designated here by the Greek expression, that is, the·os' preceded by the definite article ho. This is an articular the·os'. Careful translators recognize that the articular construction of the noun points to an identity, a personality, whereas a singular anarthrous predicate noun preceding the verb points to a quality about someone. Therefore, John's statement that the Word or Logos was "a god" or "divine" or "godlike" does not mean that he was the God with whom he was. It merely expresses a certain quality about the Word, or Logos, but it does not identify him as one and the same as God himself.
In the Greek text there are many cases of a singular anarthrous predicate noun preceding the verb, such as in Mr 6:49; 11:32; Joh 4:19; 6:70; 8:44; 9:17; 10:1, 13, 33; 12:6. In these places translators insert the indefinite article "a" before the predicate noun in order to bring out the quality or characteristic of the subject. Since the indefinite article is inserted before the predicate noun in such texts, with equal justification the indefinite article "a" is inserted before the anarthrous in the predicate of John 1:1 to make it read "a god." The Sacred Scriptures confirm the correctness of this rendering."
The above chart also attests that their translation, as that of the Revised Version-Improved and Corrected, Belsham, Priestley, etc, are superior.
The following excerpt is from William Loader, PhD in his excellent book:
"The Word was 'God'
The gospel begins with the words, 'In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was theos (`God').' 'The Word was theos' must not be isolated and made into a simple equation: the Word
was God. Grammatically this is a possible translation, but not the only one. The statement's meaning, and so its translation, must be determined by its context. It could also be translated: 'the Word was a god' or 'the Word was divine'. Grammatical considerations alone fail to decide the question, since all three translations can be
defended on grammatical grounds.
The Word was God?
Against the first of these interpretations ('the word was God') is the fact that the author has just said that the Word was 'with' God.
If 'Word' means little more than 'words', then it would be conceivable that the author could say: God's words were with him; they are, as his words, part of God himself, in that sense, they are God. Dupont comes near to this in claiming that the Logos concept  refers not to a person but to God's communication of himself. But the
author goes on to speak of the Word as a person as distinct from God, so that this must be assumed also in the opening verses.
Nor is it likely that the author intends to his opening statement to make a gradual approach to what he wishes to say, so that 'the Word was with God' is merely a step along the way to the statement, 'the Word was God' which is repeated in 1:2.
The Word was a God?
The other two translations fit the context more smoothly at one level. Yet their evaluation cannot take place without our making assumptions about the author's wider frame of reference. In particular it is unlikely, given his context within the Christian community and its roots in Judaism, that he would mean that there is more than one God. Langbrandtner reckons with this as the positions of the redactor, whereas the Grundschrift had thought of Jesus more as an extension of God into the world, but such a view on the part of the redactor is unlikely and unsupported elsewhere. It is true, on the most natural reading of the text, that there are two beings here:
God and a second who was theos but this second is related to God in a manner which shows that God is the absolute over against which the  second is defined. They are not presented as two equal gods.
The Word was divine?
This leads us to consider the third translation, 'divine', the equivalent of theios suggested already by Origen, and represented often by the phrase 'Gott con Art' or 'God of a kind'. Should the author have been concerned to say the Word was divine. why did he write theos and not the more usual adjective, theios? The order of 1:1c and lack of the article may be idiomatic in relation to the use of predicate nouns, as Colwell suggests, or it may, in addition,
reflect an emphasis on quality shared without exact reciprocity. This would suggest that the focus here lies not on the person, but on the quality or nature of the Word. Schnackenburg points to 1 John 5:20  ('We know that the Son of God has come and has given us  understanding, so that we may know the truth and we are in the truth, in his Son, Jesus Christ. He is the true God and eternal life') and understands the use of theos for Jesus as expressing that in him God reveals himself and that he has the same nature as the Father.
What was 'was'?
But what does 'nature' or 'quality' mean in this context? The New English Bible translates, 'what God was, the Word was.' It still leaves open the question: and what and how was that? Brown is right in pointing out that we are dealing with the languase of doxology here. Can we go beyond Bultmann's statement that here is paradox? Is,
as Haenchen argues, the anarthrous theos another indication of subordination of the Son to the Father in the gospel? It would be easy to read 1:l in isolation as a statement that the Logos had once been with, indeed been part of God and had ceased to be so, a kind of emanation, but passages such as 17:5,24 and those considered at the beginning of this discussion indicate much more of a personal relationship of union and love. The claim of shared originality ('in the beginning') and the absence of any notion of the Son Logos as, for instance, 'firstborn' or 'first created' being, normally associated with Wisdom/Logos tradition, is astounding. It is no surprise that such statements provoke cbristological reflection in subsequent centuries. But our task must be to interpret as far as
possible their meaning within the gospel without reading back into the text later attempts at a solution.
The nature of the relationship of Son and Father in the fourth gospel must rest on more than 1:1 and its grammatical interpretation. The term, theos, is applied similarly to Jesus in 1:l8 and comes in the confession of Thomas in 20:28. But the issue is much wider than the use of theos even in the prologue and presents itself as a repeated focus of contention, as the Son makes his claims and the Jews make counterclaims accusing him of ditheism, an accusation constantly repudiated. But we return first to the prologue as presupposition and prelude to the gospel.
Analogous relationship In Logos Wisdom Torah tradition
It is widely recognized that the motif, Word, Logos, belongs within a tradition of thought reaching back to such passages as Prov 8:22-31 and reflecting speculation about wisdom or logos as the highest heavenly power in God's service. One strand of this tradition identifies heavenly wisdom with Torah, Law, and so personifies Torah.
In this stream, Torah is God's and in that sense is God. It is not thought of literally as a person distinct from God, as we have it in the fourth gospel, but remains a personification. Closer to the notion of wisdom or the logos as a person is the stream which finds expression in Hellenistic Judaism (Wisdom, Philo). This belongs within a wider tendency Judaism to speak of the highest beings under God, sometimes to the extent that the kind of interchangeability already present in the Old Testament between the angel of the Lord and the Lord, which Justin later exploited so fully as a christological argument extended to other high beings, including the Logos. Incipient gnosticism doubtless heightened this tendency. It, too, used the Sophia/Logos speculation. In Philo the logos is not only portrayed as a person, the highest heavenly being in the service of God, but can also be called theos, a second god (De Somn. I 229f; Leg. All. III 207f; Qu. Gen. II 62). This is all the more interesting since Philo clearly does not understand this as compromising monotheism, which he stoutly defends. Rather the bearing of God's name seems related to the bearing of God's power and functions."
The Christology of the Fourth Gospel-Structures and Issues, Page 155 by William Loader, Ph.D. and New Testament Lecturer for the Perth Theological Hall, Australia, teacher at Murdoch University as a member of the Perth College of Divinity
Even if we opt for a qualitative-only view, then "the Word was a God" is still superior to the definite rendering "the Word was God."
"Often, the only way to effectively communicate a qualitative noun in the English idiom is by prefacing the noun with 'a.'" -- Paul Stephen Dixon, "The Significance of the Anarthrous Predicate Nominative in John" (Th.M. thesis, Dallas Theological Seminary, 1975), 47.
From an email: I would like to also point out, too, that even your New World Translation dose not always follow its no article-small g rule. For example, in John 1:6, 12, 12, the word God dose not have the article in the Greek, but it dose have a capital G in the New World Translation. It is correct to use the capital in those verses, but it is inconsistent with the New World Translation of John 1:1.
 
Reply: You had stated above, which I have placed in bold lettering:
"The NWT translators say the small “g” from the word god is required because the Greek word used for God (theos) is not preceded by a definite article “the”(ho). (Should you believe in the Trinity? P. 26)"
The book, The Elements of New Testament Greek, by J.W. Wenham adds an interesting comment on this though:
"In ancient manuscripts which did not differentiate between capital and small letters, there would be no way of distinguishing between QEOS ('God') and QEOS ('god'). Therefore as far as grammar alone is concerned, such a sentence could be printed: QEOS ESTIN hO LOGOS, which would mean either, 'The Word is a god', or, 'The Word is the god'. The interpretation of John i. i will depend upon whether or not the writer is held to believe in only one God or in more than one god. It will be noticed that the above rules for the special uses of the definite article are none of them rigid and without exceptions. It is wiser not to use them as a basis for theological argument until the student has reached an advanced stage in the knowledge of the language."
Interesting comments, though they do ignore qualitativeness and the earlier use of QEOS/theos for representatives of God.

From an Email: You might also be interested in noting that in John 13:3 the word God occurs twice, each time with a capital G. But in the Greek the first occurrence of the word dose not have the definite article (ho,) and the second occurrence dose. Since both obviously refer to the same person- God the Father- it would again be wrong to assume that the no article-small g has any validity in Greek grammar.
 
Reply: John 13 does not necessitate the distinction as is the case with John 1:1. I cannot rightfully say that the man was with the prophet, and the man was the prophet, but I can say he was a prophet, or qualitatively, he was prophet-like.

From an Email: Another point I would like to bring out is that without the article, theos signifies divine essence, whereas with the article theos suggest divine personality (see Dana and Mantey, A Manual Grammar of the Greek New Testament, p. 139). Also theos is a definite noun and therefore cannot have the indefinite article “a”.
 
Reply: Theos is not a definite noun in John 1:1c, or else it would have been rendered with a definite article. If you are assuming definiteness for it here, then you are making the same mistake Colwell did, and you are now a Sabbellianist. The anarthrous QEOS/theos in John 1:1c is there to make a distinction between the articular QEOS at John 1:1b and John 1:2. If the Bible writers wanted a definite QEOS, then they could have added the definite article, as they have done elsewhere. There is no grammatical rule saying that the one word QEOS is by nature definite.
Take for instance:
John 10:33,
"The Jews answered him, For a good work we stone thee not, but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself a god." Revised Version-Improved and Corrected
“Claim to be a god.”—New English Bible
“Makest thyself a god.”—John Bowes, 1870.
“[M]akest thyself a god.”—Samuel Sharpe, 1881.
“Make Yourself out to be a god.”—Ferrar Fenton, 1909.
“[M]akest thyself ‘a god’ not ‘God’ as in C[ommon].V[ersion,  KJV]., otherwise the definite article would not have been omitted, as it is here, and in the next two verses,— ‘gods..[.] gods,’ where the title is applied to magistrates, and others, because in a certain  sense they are God’s representatives. Compare also Acts 28. 6; 2 Cor. 2. 4.”—Robert Young, Concise Commentary, in loc. cit.
“[F]or making a mortal like yourself into a god.”—Andy Gaus, The Unvarnished New Testament, 1991.
Acts 12:22,
"And the people shouted, saying, The voice of a god, and not of a man." ASV
"And the people shouted, "The voice of a god, and not of man!"" RSV
Acts 28:6,
"Howbeit they looked when he should have swollen, or fallen down dead suddenly: but after they had looked a great while, and saw no harm come to him, they changed their minds, and said that he was a god." KJV
"they changed their minds and said he was a god." NIV
There are many such instances in the LXX (Septuagint) also, as in Exodus 7:1; Judges 6:31; 1 King 18:27; Psalm 5:4, etc. (See Brenton's Translation).

From an Email: It is important to keep in mind that when John 1:1 states that “the Word was God,” it dose (sic) not mean “Jesus is God the Father” or “Jesus is the Trinity.” The Watchtower booklet “The Word”-Who is he? according to John (p.6) makes the error of trying to suggest that this is what non-Jehovah’s Witnesses mean by their translation “The Word was God.” But this is not the case at all. As already shown, this clause stresses the divine quality of the Word. John is telling us that in the beginning the Word existed, was with God the Father, and possesses full deity.
 
Reply: John 1:1 does not tell us that at all. In fact, if you are trying to argue that the theos (QEOS) in John 1:1c is definite, and the QEOS in John 1:1b is the Father, then you are equating the LOGOS with the Father, therefore making them the same. I have no problem with Jesus having the qualities of His Father, but having the qualities and traits of another does not make you equal or one in substance/essence to them.

See also  A Definite Predicate Noun When it Precedes the Verb NEVER takes an Article in Greek?!

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Wednesday, December 20, 2017

Does Calling Jesus "Lord" Make Him GOD?

Claim: Jesus is Lord. Stephen called Jesus “Lord” (Acts 7:59-60), and we are to confess Jesus as Lord (Romans 10:9; 1 Corinthians 12:3) “Lord” in these verses is the Greek word Kyrios, which is the same word used for Jehovah in the Septuagint (the Greek version of the Old Testament.) And I would also like to add that the Septuagint predates Christ by several years. Just from that small bit of information, doesn’t seem rather evident that Christ the Lord (Kyrios) is Jehovah God?

Reply: The above information is not really correct. All manuscripts of the Septuagint contained the Divine Name right up to the middle of the 2nd century AD. ALL OF THEM. In fact, there is a picture of one at http://www.csad.ox.ac.uk/POxy/requests/3522.htm
ALL extant copies up to the middle of the 2nd century CE contained the Divine Name.
Here is a list of LXX mss that contain the Divine Name:

1) 4Q LXX Lev (b)
2) LXX P.Fouad Inv. 266
3) LXX VTS 10b
4) LXX VTS 10a
5) LXX IBJ 12
6) LXX P. Oxy. VII 1007

and there are 4 others Aquila's (2), Symmachus, and Ambrosian (of a later date).

Additionally, there are limitations to Jesus being "Lord", as he was made "Lord."

"God has made him both Lord and Christ, this Jesus whom you crucified." Acts 2:36

Also, from Phillipians 2:9-11:
"every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father."

Jesus is "Lord" only insofar as he was made such by someone higher than he (John 14:28). We confess Jesus as "Lord" only insofar as this gives glory to someone higher than him.

Professor Martin Werner has something to add regarding the use of "Lord."

"A peculiar situation in this connection is constituted by the use by Paul and the Primitive Christians of the Christological title of Kyrios. This title had long been considered, without proper evidence, simply as a transference of the Septuagint name for God to Christ. It was accordingly, overlooked that while Paul did indeed apply sayings of the Septuagint concerning the Kyrios to Christ, there is not one instance of his having done this where the saying referred to God (ho theos), an exception which cannot be accidental. The truth is that the invocation and designation of Christ by Kyrios prove themselves to be a particular instance of the general, but too-long-neglected, fact that late Judaism and Primitive Christianity designated and invoked the angels as kyrioi.

The transference of the title of Kyrios to the angels is already evident in the designation of God as the 'Lord of Lords', i.e. of the Kyrioi. In 4 Ezra 'Lord' is 'the term repeatedly used for the angels. On the other hand, the Apocalyptist, in converse with the angel of revelation, calls himself his 'servant , as Paul did himself in relation to Christ.

In the Christian apocalyptic literature this transference of the title of Kyrios to the angels was preserved, as is seen in the Shepherd of Hermas,  the Ascensio Jesaiae, the Apocalypse of Sophonias 5 and the Apocalypse of Abrahams.

In this connection certain clear examples from the New Testament may be cited. In Acts x, 3 f. Cornelius addresses the angel which appears to him as Kyrie, and with the same address Peter answers the anonymous voice from heaven in Acts x, 13 f, Particularly notable is the passage of Acts ix, 5. Herein Paul does not at first recognise the glorified Jesus, who appears to him on the way to Damascus, and he has to ask, 'Who art thou?' However, he addresses the heavenly appearance,  which was still unknown to him, without further ado with Kyrie. It was clear to him from the first that he had to do with a heavenly being (and certainly not with God himself, who never thus appeared in late Judaism). To such a being appertained in any case the address of Kyrie. Thus certain New Testament evidence is provided of the fact that the title of Kyrios had become a designation for a particular class of angels in the in the heavenly hierarchy. The title in this sense is frequently met in the New Testament  'Kyriotes', e.g. Eph. i, 21; Col- i, 16; Jude 8; 2 pet. ii, 10. In the New Testament this expression generally does not designate any other than a class of angels. In these terms 1 Con viii, 5 is to be understood, this being a passage in which Paul speaks of the many Kyrioi. These were in fact closely related to the many gods, over against whom Paul set Christ as the one Kyrios, with whom the faithful ought naturally alone to seek to deal. This passage, accordingly, provides effective evidence of the connection between the late Jewish and primitive Christian teaching about the Christ and the apocalyptic doctrine of angels. Among the many Kyrioi-angels was one who was marked out in a peculiar manner by God as the 'Chosen' for the office of the Christ and the world-ruler of the final epoch. Within the range of his own late-Jewish apocalyptic thought, Paul meant nothing different from that which incidentally appears in other forms in the late Jewish Apocalypse of Enoch and, later with variations, in the Christian Ascensio Jesaiae. In Enoch lxi, 10 the Christ is ranked, without qualification, among the hosts of angels, and he is, primarily, named together with the angels of lordship' (angeloi tes kyriotetos); but he is also 'the Chosen', who will ascend the Throne of God as the judge of the World, and is entitled to worship. Finally, reference must also be made to a peculiar instance in the speech of Stephen in Acts vii, 30 ff. Herein the angel (angelos), which appeared to Moses on Sinai, is identified with the Kyrios as the pre-existing Christ. The ascription of the title of Kyrios to Christ thus constitutes a remarkable piece of evidence indicative of the fact that, in terms of the Primitive Christian conception, related as it was to the apocalyptic doctrine of the Messiah, Christ was a high heavenly being of angelic kind." pp. 123, 124, The Formation of Christian Dogma

Tuesday, December 19, 2017

Colossians 2:9 and the Deity of Christ


From an email: In Colossians 2:9 it clearly confirms the deity of Christ when it states that in Him “all the fullness of the Deity lives in bodily form”

Reply: It is not that Greek scholars universally reject "divine quality" (they don't), but more to the truth, it is that YOUR Greek apologists reject it.

From http://www.ibiblio.org/bgreek/test-archives/html4/1999-06/31691.html
"deity" ought NOT, I think, to be categorized as a proper noun here, EVEN if one holds monotheistic assumptions; -THS nouns in Greek, like -TAS nouns in Latin, are abstracts based upon an adjective and refer to quality rather than entity; thus QEOTHS should be understood to mean "what it is be be a god" or "the quality of being a god." One may then  go on, if one wishes, and apply that in monotheistic terms, as "what it  is to be God" or "the quality of being God"--but it is still erroneous, in my opinion, to equate this with QEOS or KURIOS in the sense of a name. We tend in English to use the term "the Deity" as an equivalent of "God." I simply do not think that, even with the article, hH QEOTHS is used like that in Greek. Consequently I think that in Col 2:9 the
meaning is rather that "in him dwells bodily the entire fullness of 'what it is to be a god.'" One may then, if one chooses, understand that monotheistically, but even so, I think, one ought to realize that the Greek text is not talking about a divine person as a divine person but about the quality of being a god.
Carl W. Conrad-Department of Classics, Washington University

In line with this, we have other Bibles that do not use "Deity" or "Godhead" at Col. 2:9.
See also http://www.auburn.edu/~allenkc/fbf/fulness.html

The following works also have some interesting comments regarding Colossians 2:9:

"1. The word "Deity" or "Godhead" is a translation of the Greek word theotes. In A Greek English Lexicon, by Liddell and Scott, the classic lexicon of the ancient Greek language, it is translated as " divinity, divine nature. " In making their case, Liddell and Scott cite Greek authors Plutarch and Lucian, and also reference Heliodorus and Oribasius using the phrase dia theoteta ="for religious reasons." The Greek word occurs only once in the Bible, so to try to build a case for it meaning "God" or "Godhead" (which is an unclear term in itself) is very suspect indeed. Standard rules for interpreting Scripture would dictate that the way Paul used theotes in Colossians would be the same way the Colossians were used to hearing it in their culture. There is no reason to believe that Paul wrote to the Colossians expecting them to "redefine" the vocabulary they were using. Christ was filled with holy spirit "without measure," and God him authority on earth to heal, cast out demons, forgive sins, etc. Thus, it makes perfect sense Scripture would say that Christ had the fullness of the "divine nature" dwelling in him. In fact, the same thing is said about every Christian (2 Pet. 1:4).

2. The word "fullness" demonstrates that the verse is speaking of something that one could also have just a part of. It makes no sense to talk about the "fullness" of something that is indivisible. God is indivisible. We never read about "the fullness of God the Father" because by definition, God is always full of His own nature. Therefore, the verse is not talking about Christ being God, but about God in someway providing Christ with "fullness." What this verse is saying is made clear earlier in Colossians: "God was pleased to have all his fullness dwell in him" (Col. 1: 19). That is true. John 3:34 adds clarification: "For the one whom God has speaks the words of God, for God gives the spirit without limit."

3. The fact that Christ has "all the fullness" of God does not make him God. Ephesians says that Christians should be filled with "all the fullness of God," and no one believes that would make each Christian God.

4. If Christ were God, it would make no sense to say that the fullness of God dwelt in because, being God, he would always have the fullness of God. The fact that Christ could have the fullness of God dwell in him actually shows that he was not God. 2 Peter 1:4 says that by of God's great and precious promises we "may participate in the divine nature." Having "divine nature" does not make us God, and it did not make Christ God. The note on I Peter in the NIV Study Bible is almost correct when, referring to the divine nature, it states: " We are, indwelt by God through His Holy Spirit" (we would say "holy spirit, referring to God's gift. Likewise Christ, who was filled with holy spirit without limits, had the fullness of "Deity."), dwelling in him.

5. The context is a key to the proper interpretation of the verse. The Colossians had lost their focus on Christ (see Col. 1:15-20 above). Colossians 2:8 shows that the people were danger of turning to "hollow and deceptive philosophy" rather than being focused on Christ. What could philosophy and traditions offer that Christ could not? The next verse is a reminder that there is no better place to turn for answers and for truth than to Christ, in whom all fullness of God dwells. There is nothing in the context here that would warrant believing Paul is writing about the Trinity. He is simply saying that if you want to find God, look to Christ. , Christ himself had said he was "the Way" and "the Truth, " and that " no man comes to the Father, except through me." pp. 513, 514 One God & One Lord by Mark H. Graeser, John E. Less and John W. Schoenheit.

And from Jesus-God or the Son of God by Brian Holt:
"Trinitarians believe this verse means God came down and dwelled in a body, that is, Christ's body. The Twentieth Century New Testament says, "For in Christ the Godhead in all its fullness dwells incarnate." Does Paul mean what these translations appear to say? Notice the next words from The Twentieth Century New Testament: "and, by your union with him, you also are filled with it." (Colossians 2:10) So we can see that, yes, the 'Godhead in all its fullness dwells incarnate' in Christ, but we also were filled with it too! Does this mean we are God in bodily form? The New World Translation reads "because it is in him that all the Fullness of the divine quality dwells bodily" signifying that it is not God that dwells in Christ but God's qualities. Jesus could then say, "he that has seen me has seen the Father " (See John 14:9.)

The reader might find it interesting to note this is not the first time Paul said someone was filled with 'all the fullness of God.' Notice Ephesians 3:19:

"That ye might be filled with all the fullness of God"-King James Version
"and so be filled to the full with God himself"-Twentieth Century New Testament
"that you may be filled up with all the fullness of God"-The New American Standard Bible
"that you may be filled to the measure of all the fullness of God"-New International Version
'And so at last you will be filled up with God Himself" -The Living Bible

Inasmuch as no one would argue Paul was saying we are God since 'all the fullness of God dwells in us,' why say Christ is God because all the fullness of God dwells in him? It seems Paul was stating Christ was full of God's divine qualities, of which he tells us we should be too.
The context around this verse, besides the fact verse 10 says Christians will also be filled with the fullness of God, also confirms this verse is not saying Jesus is God. For instance, Colossians 1:19 says, "For God was pleased to have all his fullness dwell in him (Christ)." Was Paul saying all of the fullness of God was in Christ because Christ was God or that the fullness of God was in Christ because it pleased God (note: a separate person from Christ) to have His fullness dwell in Christ? The New English Bible says it was "by God's own choice" His fullness dwelt in Christ. Thus, far from proving Jesus is God because all the fullness of God dwells in him, we see all the fullness of God dwells in Christ only because it pleased the Father to do so. As the New Testament in Modern English states, "It was in him that the full nature of God chose to live." If God had to make a choice as to whether or not all His fullness would dwell in Jesus, then Jesus is obviously not God. Touted by some as the strongest evidence for Jesus being God, we find it is quite flimsy. This verse is not saying Christ is God." pp. 97, 98

From the New Testament in an Improved Version Upon the Basis of Archbishop Newcome's New Translation with A Corrected Text, 1808 [A Revision of Archbishop Newcome's New Testament, by the Society for Promoting Christian Knowledge] adds at Colossians 2:9:

"All those blessings which proceed from the Godhead, and wherewith we are filled, dwell in Christ, truly and substantially."

Take the words of Erasmus, regarding Scripture, and apply it to God and Christ:
"These holy pages will sum up the living image of His mind. They will give you Christ Himself, talking, healing, dying, rising, the whole Christ in a word; they will give Him to you in an intimacy so close that He would be less visible to you if He stood before your eyes."

Jesus was not physically the Scriptures themselves, but they portrayed what he was. Jesus was not God Himself, but he gave God to us in an intimacy so close....

We miss the beauty of these words if we read a later theology into them.

Addendum:

H. V. Reed in the Restitution writes:

"The reader has been led to infer that this was among the most approved and clearly stated ideas of the original scriptures. Nothing can be more unfair. The word godhead is not good English: it means nothing in itself and conveys no idea to the reader. What is a godhead? The idea in the original is simple and beautiful. We will note the three texts wherein it occurs. Acts 17: 'Being, therefore, already offspring of God, we ought not to be supposing that which is Divine to be like unto gold, or silver, or stone, etc. (Rotherham.) Rom. 1:20; 'For his unseen things from a world's creation are to be clearly seen by the things made being perceived, both his eternal power and divinity.' (Rotherham.) Col. 2:9: 'For in him (Christ) dwelleth all the completeness of the Divine nature in a body.' The word godhead like the word trinity, carries with it the idea of a society, which is not the idea of the original. Had the word been left out of the revised Testament it would have removed another impression from the 'three-in-one-God' theory. Modern criticism has forced certain interpretations from the sacred texts, and it will be a long time before doctrinal harmony and Biblical exegesis will expurge from the creed of man the theories of endless misery, the destruction of our globe, and the heathen dogma of the God society, or trinity. No effect on the part of authorized versions will succeed in bolstering up theories which are contrary alike to sound reason and the Scriptures of truth."

Sunday, December 17, 2017

John 20:28 and Men as Gods


From an email: When Thomas touched the wounds of the risen Lord, he said, “My Lord and my God!”(John 20:28). There is no basis whatsoever for saying, as some say, that Thomas was referring to Jesus when he said “my Lord” but was referring to God the Father when he said “my God.” Instead, Thomas called Christ his Lord and his God, and interestingly Christ did not correct him.

Reply: If the statement "my Lord and my God" was indeed referring to the Father, then there is no need for correction, is there? 
John 20:28 reads, O KURIOS MOU KAI O QEOS MOU. The KURIOS/Lord here is in the nominative form, while the vocative form KURIE is used mainly in direct address. Yes, there is such a thing as the "Nominative for the Vocative," but as Edwin Abbott, in his Johannine Grammar puts it: 

"The Egyptian Papyri use KURIE freely, but never, so far as alleged, hO KURIOS vocatively. Thus, a great mass of evidence from all extant Greek [shows] that, had the vocative been intended, KURIE would have been employed. This is confirmed by the Latin versions, which have 'dominus.'" 94 sec., 2049 

Let us find some of these occurences of the vocative KURIE with the possessive MOU (using primarily Brenton's LXX: 

Judges 4:18 "And Jael went out to meet Sisera, and said to him, Turn aside, my lord, turn aside to me, fear not." 
1 Samuel (1 Kings LXX) 25:24 "And she fell before David...even to his feet, and said, On me, my lord, be my wrong" 
2 Samuel (2 Kings LXX) 7:18, 19, "And king David came in, and sat before the Lord, and said, Who am I, O Lord, my Lord, and what is my house, that thou hast loved me hitherto? Whereas I was very little before thee, O Lord, my Lord" 
see also 2 Samuel 7:20, 22, 25, 28, 29; 14:19, 19; 1 Kings 1:13, 17, and many others. 

The question needs to be asked, since the vocative KURIE with the possessive MOU was not uncommon in direct address, it seems odd NOT to employ it at John 20:28. The argument is strong that Jesus was NOT being addressed here, especially as the vocative KURIE was also used in the Gospel of John at 4:11, 15, 19, 49; 5:7; 6:34, 68; 9:36, 38; 11:3, 12, 21, 27, 32, 34, 39; 13:6, 9, 25, 36, 37; 14:5, 8, 22; 20:15; 21:15, 16, 20, 21. 
[There is another subcategory not usually mentioned, the Nominative of Exclamation, which according to Daniel Wallace, "will not be used in direct address. It is a primitive use of the language where emotion overrides syntax." see Greek Grammar Beyond the Basics, pp. 59, 60]

Would we even be discussing this if someone else was thus addressed? 
Consider 1 Samuel 20:12 "And Jonathan said unto David, O LORD God of Israel." KJV, Douay, Revised Webster 
or "And Jonathan said unto David, O Yahweh Elohim of Israel" (Restored Name KJV). 
No one would ever argue that David was God, but if ever there was a movement to think so, this verse would be used as a proof-text. 

However, powerful men were indeed addressed as Gods in the Bible: 

Exodus 4:16, "And he shall be thy spokesman unto the people; and it shall come to pass, that he shall be to thee a mouth, and thou [Moses] shalt be to him as God."
"It is as if Moses would be a god, or God, to Aaron, giving him the words to say, inspiring him as God would inspire a prophet. The whole process had now been removed one step. Instead of God speaking to Moses and Moses telling the people, Aaron would be the speaker for a while. But God was still going to work through Moses." NET Bible

Exodus 7:1, "And Jehovah said unto Moses, See, I have made thee as God to Pharaoh; and Aaron thy brother shall be thy prophet."
Dake's Annotated Bible here says "Elohim is thus used of men who were to act in God's place before men."
Bullinger adds in his Companion Bible, "Elohim=one appointed by oath. Elohim is thus used of those so given and appointed."

The Wycliffe Bible Commentary states, "Moses was given divine authority over Pharoah"

"he was to act in this business as God's representative, to act and speak in His name and to perform things beyond the ordinary course of nature. The Orientals familiarly say of a man who is eminently great or wise, 'he is a god' among men."  Jamieson, Fausset, Brown's Commentary Critical and Explanatory 
on the Whole Bible

"I have made thee a god to Pharaoh - That is, my representative in this affair, as magistrates are called gods, because they are God's vicegerents. He was authorized to speak and act in God's name, and endued with a divine power, to do that which is above the ordinary course of nature." John Wesley's Explanatory Notes on the Whole Bible

"The word ‘elohim is used a few times in the Bible for humans (e.g., Pss 45:6; 82:2), and always clearly in the sense of a subordinate to GOD—they are his representatives on earth. The explanation here goes back to 4:16. If Moses is like God in that Aaron is his prophet, then Moses is certainly like God to Pharaoh. Only Moses, then, is able to speak to Pharaoh with such authority, giving him commands." NET Bible

"For that he was "made a god to Pharaoh," means that he was furnished with supreme authority and power, whereby he should cast down the tyrant's pride. Nor did God take away anything from Himself in order to transfer it to Moses; since He so communicates to His servants what is peculiar to Himself as to remain Himself in His completeness. Nay, whenever He seems to resign a part of His glory to His ministers, He only teaches that the virtue and efficacy of His Spirit will be joined with their labors, that they may not be fruitless. Moses, therefore, was a god to Pharaoh; because in him God exerted His power, that he should be superior to the greatness of the king. It is a common figure of the Hebrews, to give the title of God to all things excellent, since He alone reigns over heaven and earth, and exalts or casts down angels, as well as men, according to His will." Calvin's Commentary

"The word Elohim, as the Hebrews remark, whether applied to God, or to men, or to angels, signifies judicial power." -- Grotius in ­Pol. Syn. (as quoted In Calvin's Commentary)

Note on Exodus 18:15: "As a judge Moses is speaking for God; but as the servant of Yahweh Moses’ words will be God’s words. The psalms would later describe judges as “gods” because they made the right decisions based on God’s Law."

So you see, men who were given authority, could be called "God." John is using a way of speaking at verse 20:28 that qualifies  QEOS by the use of MOU. Therefore, Jesus is QEOS to Thomas in a relative sense as the Father is QEOS to Jesus (John 20:17; cf. Ex 4:16, 7:1 where Moses is God to Pharaoh and Aaron).

Exodus 21:6, "then his master shall bring him unto God ["judges" New International Version]"

"Others have made a stronger case that it refers to judges who acted on behalf of God; see C. Gordon, “<yhla in its Reputed Meaning of Rulers, Judges,” JBL 54 (1935): 134-44; and A. E. Draffkorn, “Ilani/Elohim,” JBL 76 (1957): 216-24." NET Bible
Exodus 22:8, " If the thief be not found, then the master of the house shall come near unto God ["judges" New International Version], to see whether he have not put his hand unto his neighbor's goods."
"gods--a word which is several times in this chapter rendered "judges" or magistrates." Jamieson, Fausset, Brown's Commentary Critical and Explanatory on the Whole Bible
Dake's Annotated Bible, says regarding the judges at Ex. 22:8: "Heb. ha-elohim, the gods. Here it stands for men who represent God in judgment and executing justice according to his own law given to Moses. Such men represent Him and acts in His stead, according to Rom.13:1-6. This meaning should be given to the term *judges* in [Ex] 18:15-19; 21:6; 22:8; Cp. Ps 82:1, 6; Jn 10:34-36.

"Here again the word used is “the gods,” meaning the judges who made the assessments and decisions. In addition to the bibliography listed earlier, see J. R. Vannoy, “The Use of the Word ha’elohim in Exodus 21:6 and 22:7,8,” in The Law and the Prophets: Old Testament Studies Prepared in Honor of Oswald Allis (Nutley, N.J.: Presbyterian and Reformed, 1974), 225-41." NET Bible

Exodus 22:28: New American Bible  "You shall not revile God, nor curse a prince of your people." 
New Berkeley Version  "Heap no abuse upon judges and do not curse a ruler of your people."
NAB Footnote: or perhaps "the gods," in the sense of "the judges," as the parallel with a prince of your people suggests.
NBV Footnote: Again the name Elohim is used, which usually stands for God, but balanced, Hebrew fashion, with "rulers" in the next clause, it must denote judges as it did previously.

"The word ‘elohim is “gods” or “God.” If taken as the simple plural, it could refer to the human judges, as it has in the section of laws; this would match the parallelism in the verse. If it was taken to refer to God, then the idea of cursing God would be more along the line of blasphemy. Jacob says that the word refers to functioning judges, and that would indirectly mean God, for they represented the religious authority, and the prince the civil authority (p. 708)." NET Bible

"That these were designated 'gods' implies reverence and recognition of Him who sent them and whom they thus represented. Consequently in the Scriptures (Exod. xxii, 28), not only angels, but even men could be called 'gods',  without according them this status in the strict sense. [Ps. Clem. Recogn. ii, 42]" The Formation of Christian Dogma, p. 140 by Martin Werner

1 Samuel 2:25 "If one man sin against another, God shall judge him" ASV 
"If one man sin against another, the judge shall judge him" KJV

Psalm 45:6, "Thy throne [King Solomon], O God ["the Messianic king", Brown Driver &Briggs], is for ever and ever: A sceptre of equity is the sceptre of thy kingdom."

The NASB Zondervan Study Bible (see also NIV Study Bible) has this footnote:

"O God. Probably the king's throne is called God's throne because he is God's appointed regent. But it is also possible that the king himself is addressed as "god." The Davidic king (the LORD's anointed 2 Sam. 19:21), because of his special relationship with God, was called at his enthronement the 'son' of God (see 2:7; 2 Sam 7:14; 1 Chr 28:6; cf. 89:27). In this psalm, which praises the king and especially extols his 'splendor and majesty' (v. 3), it is not unthinkable that he was called 'god' as a title of honor (cf. Is 9:6). Such a description of the Davidic king attains its fullest meaning when applied to Christ, as the author of Hebrews does (Heb 1:8,9). (The pharoahs of Egypt were sometimes addressed as 'my god' by their vassal kings in Canaan, as evidenced by the Amarna letters...Such was the language used with respect to kings (see note 21:4). It here gains added significance in the light of God's covenant with David (see 89:4, 29, 36; 132:12; 2 Sam 7:16). In Christ the Son of David, it is fulfilled."

The New American Bible reads here in the footnote:
 "The king in courtly language, is called 'god,' i.e., more than human, representing God to the people."

The Interpreters Bible comments:
"In the ancient world kings were commonly accorded divine titles as viceregents of deity or as belonging to a superhuman class."

The NET Bible states:
"O God. The king is clearly the addressee here, as in vv. 2-5 and 7-9. Rather than taking the statement at face value, many prefer to emend the text because the concept of deifying the earthly king is foreign to ancient Israelite thinking (cf. NEB “your throne is like God’s throne, eternal”). However, it is preferable to retain the text and take this statement as another instance of the royal hyperbole that permeates the royal psalms. Because the Davidic king is God’s vice-regent on earth, the psalmist addresses him as if he were God incarnate. God energizes the king for battle and accomplishes justice through him. A similar use of hyperbole appears in Isa 9:6, where the ideal Davidic king of the eschaton is given the title “Mighty God” (see the note on this phrase there). Ancient Near Eastern art and literature picture gods training kings for battle, bestowing special weapons, and intervening in battle. According to Egyptian propaganda, the Hittites described Rameses II as follows: “No man is he who is among us, It is Seth great-of-strength, Baal in person; Not deeds of man are these his doings, They are of one who is unique” (see M. Lichtheim, Ancient Egyptian Literature, 2:67). Ps 45:6 and Isa. 9:6 probably envision a similar kind of response when friends and foes alike look at the Davidic king in full battle regalia. When the king’s enemies oppose him on the battlefield, they are, as it were, fighting against God himself." 

To The Hebrews, A New Translation with Introduction and Commentary. The Anchor Bible, pp.20-21, follows this line if thought:
"Psalm 45 was a poem addressed to a king, not to God.The king, whom God had blessed, was urged to gird on his sword in glory and ride victoriously (Ps.45:3-4). His enemies were destined to fall before his sharp arrows (Ps.45:5). In the Psalm the king was also addressed with reference to his throne and his scepter, but the words could be understood as addressed to God. Since the author of Hebrews wanted to use this royal Psalm, he had to deal with this difficulty in some way, just as commentators do today. He seems to have handled the problem by speaking in reference to the Son, just as he had spoken in reference to the angels (1:7) just before. Then, in reference to the Son he spoke of God's throne and the Son's kingdom. Next, in the following verse, he continued to deal with the Son in direct address as indicated by the Psalm quotation. It seems more likely that the author of Hebrews sensed a difficulty here than he intentionally confused the Son with God. For the author, the Son was the first-born,the apostle of God,the reflection of God's glory, and the stamp of his nature(1:3,6), but he was not God himself."

The Oxford Bible Commentary, on p. 380 states:
"The text is in disorder in a number of places, hence the different renderings by modern Eng. versions, The meaning of v. 6 has been hotly debated. The most natural way of taking the Hebrew is as NRSV, with the king addressed as God. Because this would be unique in the OT (although the future king of Isa 9:6 is called 'mighty god'), alternative ways of interpreting the Hebrew have been sought. The NRSV marg. is one possibility, another is 'Your throne is everlasting like that of God'."

B.F. Westcott acknowledged (see his "The Epistle to the Hebrews"), the Psalm is a reference to an earthly King (probably Solomon), so if this verse requires that Jesus be God Almighty, then we have no choice but to conclude that Solomon was also God Almighty.

Psalm 58:1 "Do ye indeed speak righteousness, O congregation? do ye judge uprightly, O ye sons of men?" King James 
"Do you indeed speak righteousness, O gods? Do you judge uprightly, O sons of men?" New American Standard

Psalm 82:1, "God standeth in the congregation of God; He judgeth among the gods." 
Check out the cross-references of the following Bibles, as they point between Psalm 82:1 and the human judges in Exodus: 
The Interpreters Bible Psalm 82:1>Ex. 21:6; 22:8, 9; 1 Sam 2:25 
New American Standard Bible-Zondervan Study Bible Psalm 82:1>Ex. 21:6; 22:8, 28 
NASB Reference Edition Psalm 82:1>Ex. 21:6; 22:8, 28 
Dake's Annotated Study Bible KJV Psalm 82:1>Ex. 7:1; 21:6; 22:8, 28 (with footnote, "Heb. elohim, Gods. It is used of earthly judges who represent him.") 
New International Version Study Bible ftn, Psalm 82:1>Ex. 21:6; 22:8 
Companion Bible KJV Psalm 82:1>Ex. 21:6; 22:8, 28 (with footnote, "gods, Elohim: used of earthly judges as representing Him...Hence Moses is so spoken.")

What does all this mean for John 20:28?

"Thomas, unlike Judas, had come to recognize the one who was to be the "God" of the Coming Age, replacing Satan, the "God" of this present age (2 Cor. 4:4). Thomas had not suddenly arrived at a revolutionary new belief that Jesus was "very God of very God." There was nothing in the Old Testament concerning Jesus' Messiahship which predicted that an eternal immortal being was to become a human person as the promised King of Israel. Nevertheless the human king could on rare occasions be addressed as "God" as in Psalm 45:6, where he is also given the title "lord" (v. 11). Both "Lord" and "God" are Messianic titles, and appropriately used by John who wrote his whole book to convince us to believe that Jesus was the Messiah (John 20:3 1). 
Reality struck home to the skeptic Thomas when he recognized that it was the resurrected Jesus through whom God was going to restore the fortunes of Israel. Thus Jesus became "God" to Thomas in a way parallel to the sense in which Moses had enjoyed the status of "God" in the presence of Pharaoh: "The Lord [had] said to Moses, 'See, I make you God to Pharaoh"' (Exod. 7: 1). These titles of high honor bestowed on God's human instruments did not infringe upon the strict monotheism of the Old Testament." The Doctrine of the Trinity, Anthony Buzzard, p. 86

Additonally:
"But let me give another view. Karl Rahner, the eminent Roman Catholic theologian considers that there are reliable applications of "theos" to Christ in six texts (Romans ix.5f; John i.1,18,xx.28; 1 John v.20; and Titus ii.13). Rahner, however, immediately goes on the say that in none of these instances is "theos" used in such a manner as to identify Jesus with him who elsewhere in the New Testament figures as "ho Theos", that is, the Supreme God. 

Now obviously the very few New Testament passages-possibly only one-which without question call Jesus "God" outright do not exhaust the linguistic evidence. Notwithstanding, and in comparison with the frequency with which this form of christological confession is still required in the christian churches, is not it's rarity in the New Testament surprising? Would it, in fact, be unfair to press the point with the following query? If the New Testament writers believed it vital that the faithful should confess Jesus as "God", is the almost complete absence of just this form of confession in the New Testament explicable? JESUS AS "THEOS" IN THE NEW TESTAMENT G.H.BOOBYER (THE JOHN RYLANDS BULLETIN.VOL50.1967/8)


Friday, December 15, 2017

Is Jesus called "God" at Matthew 1:23?

From an email sent to me: Several Bible verses specifically affirm the deity (deity means to be God) of Christ. In Matthew 1:23, Christ is called “Immanuel,” which means “God with us.”
Reply: The use of the titular name Imanuel had its earlier fulfillment is someone other than Jesus Christ:

    "Both the context of Isaiah 7 and the use of "Immanuel" two more times in chapter 8 (vv. 8, 10) raise the distinct possibility that the sign had a near fulfillment that affected Ahaz directly. Such a possibility is supported by the two verses immediately after 7:14 that tell us that the boy will still be young when Ahaz's enemies-the kings of Samaria and Damascus-will lose their power (a prediction fulfilled in 732 b.c.). The birth of a boy who would serve as a sign to Ahaz appears to be closely linked to the birth of Isaiah's son Maher-Shalal-Hash-Baz in 8:1-4. Both Immanuel in 7:15-16 and Maher-Shalal-Hash-Baz in 8:4 are young children when Damascus and Samaria collapse. And in 8:8 the two boys may be identified as Isaiah addresses Immanuel as if he were already present in Jerusalem. Verse 10 contains another occurrence of "Immanuel" in the words "God is with us." The prophet was challenging Ahaz to trust God, who was "with" his people just as he had promised to be with them constantly. In Numbers 14:9 Joshua and Caleb had urged the Israelites to acknowledge that the Lord was with them and to begin the conquest of Canaan, but just like Ahaz the people chose the path of unbelief with its tragic consequences. An earlier king of Judah, Abijah, believed that God was with his people as they faced the numerically superior army of Jeroboam. Abijah's faith was honored as the Lord gave him a resounding victory (2 Chron 13:12-15)." -- Elwell, Walter A. "Entry for 'Immanuel'". "Evangelical Dictionary of Theology". http://www.biblestudytools.net/Dictionaries/BakerEvangelicalDictionary/bed.cgi?number=T366. 1997.

Was one of Isaiah's sons also God? Of course not!

Harris, in his Jesus As God, has this long, technical, and interesting statement:

    "Matthew 1:23 is the first of Matthew's "formula citations" and reflects the LXX version of Isaiah 7:14, to which the evangelist has added O ESTIN KTL. The issue is whether MEQ HMWN O QEOS should be translated "God with us" or "God is with us," that is, whether MEQ HMWN is attributive and functions as an adjective or is predicative and functions as an adverb. It should be observed immediately that both of the above translations are feasible, for in both Hebrew (GKC §141f) and Greek (N. Turner, Syntax 294-98, 309-10) the copula may be omitted.

    That Matthew attaches special significance to the name EMMANOUHL is incontestable: he has included in his citation of Isaiah 7:14 a line (KAI KALESOUSIN...EMMANOUHL) which was not directly germane to his purpose of showing that the virginal conception and the birth of Jesus were the fulfillment of Scripture; in addition, he has added a translation of the Hebrew expression El Imanuw-'el that the LXX had simply transliterated.

    In arguing in favor of the translation "God with us," J. C. Fenton notes the inclusio in Matthew 1:23 and Matthew 28:20 (MEQ hHMWV hO QEOS-EGW MEQ hUMWN EIMI) and equates the EGW of 28:20 with the hO QEOS of 1:23: "Matthew is saying that Jesus is God" (81). But one may recognize the presence of inclusio without drawing Fenton's conclusion. The Messiah Jesus is now always with his obedient disciples (28:20) because God once deigned to visit his people in this Messiah (1:23). Is it likely that Matthew, whose favorite designation for Jesus is hUIOS QEOU would preface his Gospel with hO QEOS as a christological title?

    Fenton also emphasizes that in Matthew META + the genitive almost always means "in the company of" rather than "in favor of" and therefore is more readily applicable to the Son than the Father (81). In the nature of the case, most uses of META in the Gospels denote a literal "being with," but one should not overlook its figurative use "of aid or help be with someone, stand by, help someone of God's help" (BAGD 509a, citing [with a "cf."] Matt. 1:23). Perhaps the closest verbal parallel in the NT to MEQ hHMWN hO QEOS is found in 2 Corinthians 13:11: hO QEOS ... ESTAI MEQ hUMWN. In both texts (EINAI) META denotes divine aid and favor.

    Whereas the MT of Isaiah 7:14 reads the third-person singular qara (referring to the child's mother) and the LXX the second-person singular KALESEIS (referring to Ahaz), Matthew has the impersonal third-person plural KALESOUSIN "they (= people) will call him (Immanuel)." If these people are the followers of Jesus, "Immanuel" could here be portrayed as the post-Easter christological confession of the church, comparable to Thomas's confession, "My Lord and my God" (John 20:28) . It is unnecessary, however, to restrict this confession to a post-Easter setting when QEOS became an occasional title of Jesus. For when, during the public ministry of Jesus, people glorified God that he had intervened in human history to bring physical or spiritual healing through Jesus, they were in effect giving Jesus the name "Immanuel"-in the person of Jesus "God is with us" to save. For instance, the crowd at Nain who had witnessed Jesus' raising of the widow's son "glorified God" with the words "God has visited his people" (Luke 7:16), which is equivalent to saying "Jesus is Immanuel" (cf. also Luke 1:68-69).

    In favor of the translation "God is with us," it is true that the translation of El Imanuw-'el that Matthew supplies, MEQ hHMWN hO QEOS simply reproduces the word order of the Hebrew, but if hO QEOS were in fact a title of Jesus, one might have expected the translation to be either hO MEQ hHMWN QEOS or hO QEOS MEQ hHMWN (or the more correct Greek hO QEOS hO MEQ HMWN). That is, word order suggests that MEQ hHMWN is predicative rather than attributive, functioning as an adverb rather than as an adjective.

    There are only three occurrences of El Imanuw-'el in the OT, all in Isaiah. Twice the LXX translates the expression by (KURIOS) hO QEOS (Isa. 8:8, 10), and once it transliterates the phrase (Isa. 7:14). Matthew cites the transliteration found in Isaiah 7:14, but when he chooses to add a translation he uses the rendering found in Isaiah 8:8, 10 where, according to BDB 769a, El Imanuw-'el is a "declaration of trust and confidence, with us is God!" That is, the meaning of MEQ hHMWN hO QEOS seems almost indistinguishable from hO QEOS -hUPER hHMWN (cf. Rom. 8:31).

    There are therefore strong reasons for believing that in Matthew 1:23 MEQ hHMWN hO QEOS signifies that in Jesus God is present, to bring salvation to his people rather than that Jesus, as hO QEOS is personally present with his people. Matthew is not saying, "Someone who is 'God' is now physically with us," but "God is acting on our behalf in the person of Jesus.""
pp. 257, 258 Jesus as God-The New Testament Use of Theos in Reference to Jesus by Murray J. Harris